Down to two Swap options 3sge Beams (BT) vs Gen3 3sgte...

3SGE Beams Dual VVTi with 6speed trans (210hp)for around $1800 or 94+ 3sgte Gen3 wit 5speed LSD (255hp)for around $2500 any info would help. ... The blacktop 3S-GE BEAMS ECU won't work in anything except the RS200 it came out of. They use CANBUS for wheel speed sensing and all kinds of insanity.

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2,247. Drifter. Jul 05, 2010 #2. Nothing you really need to worry about, theres a cap on each cam and under thats a single 10mm hex bolt that secures the pulley to the camshaft. Remove that and the pulley will pop off revealing the seal you're after. You don't remove any of the other bolts on the camshaft pulley otherwise you're in for a lot of ...

First, Second, third, Forth Gen 3SGE info

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3S-GE is indeed max advised RPM's at 7200 RPM Redline starts at 7000 rpm. Rev limiter kicks in at 7500 rpm IIRC. JDM Powerplant installed, BPU coming very soon! I got an 3s GE with limiter 7500 rev, becouse i got put an MSD ignition and an coil blaster MSD, and wires plugs of 10.5 mm.

3sge beams vvt-i black top fwd help | Toyota Nation Forum

The "red top" can found in a JDM Celica and MR2 and also FWD (MR2 not FWD, but you know what I mean). The "grey" and "red" are basicly the same with one difference. The "grey" has cats built into the header. The "black top" you speak of is found in the JDM Altezza and has dual vvti. That can only be used in the RWD configuration …

Front Engine RWD transmission options? | MR2 Owners Club …

Wanted to chime in on this although i didn't read it all. I put a 5th gen 3sgte into a 2006 Nissan 350Z and retained the CD009 transmission. It's not difficult and there's no differnce in the bell pattern of the beams blacktop,beams redtop,3sgte or 5sfe. Sorry i hadn't realized I posted before. I am now thinking of swapping in a 2gr or 1gr.

Which is better for a N/A swap? (The beams REDTOP or...

Haha ya I'm alive, I'm deep in the ruckus thing now So to make it clear for the OP, a BLACKTOP beams is the FR layout from an altezza which has a 6speed tranny, NO this will not directly go into an Mr2 for the simple reason of it being an FR layout, and mounting this into an mr2 really isn't worth the effort as it only gives you a 10hp …

Lexus IS200 with Altezza 3SGE Swap | Lexus IS Forum

View attachment 137989. I used a 2000 Lexus IS200 as a base car for the swap. It came with the slow AF 1G-FE and automatic tranny. After two years of use and fixing the suspension, I decided to do the 3SGE swap this year since the engine was getting tired and misfiring quite badly.

Blacktop BEAMS 3SGE – Doctored Garage

Information about the BEAMS The BEAMS 3SGE from the Altezza was the 5th generation, often referred to as "blacktop" due to the valve cover shroud color, and is the OEM rear wheel drive configuration of the 3SGE. It is equipped with Toyota's Dual VVT-i technology. VVT-i stands for "Variable Valve Timing – Intelligent". Older VVT…

Your Complete Guide To A 3SGE Beams Swap | JJHEngines

Performance Capabilities of the 3SGE Beams. Given the immense headroom of the 3SGE architecture, the Beams engines respond extremely well to …

3SGE / 3SGTE Pistons | MR2 Owners Club Forum

I have a gen 3 3sge enine in a toyota curren and i have my mr2 with a gen2 3sgte engine. I have a set of forged pistons for the mr2 ct20turbo and gen3 injectors. I want to swap those out but i wanted to recycle them in the curren and turbo charge it. So i would take the CT26 and pistons from the MR2. Use the pistons to lower the comp n the 3sge ...

Full Secuential Toyota 3SGE

Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 6:28 pm. Location: birmingham,Alabama. U.S.A. Re: Full Secuential Toyota 3SGE. by nismoautoxr » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:24 am. turn the crankshaft until the missing tooth is aligned with the crank sensor and make sure the cam tooth you leave on is not inline with the cam sensor when the missing tooth on the crank …

High revving 3S-GE? | MR2 Owners Club Forum

DefSport. I think just making power up past 7500 RPM is going to be tough with streetable cams. I have a 7600 RPM hard Rev limiter on my stock rev2 3S-GTE with upgraded valve Springs and gen 3 GTE cams. I don't see why upgraded valve springs and some bigger 264ish aftermarket cams could rev in that range (7600-7800 RPM).

3sge beams vvt-i black top fwd help | Toyota Nation Forum

there were 2 different types of beams engine, the blacktop, and the red top. as far as i know, the blacktop was available in the jdm celica and mr2 from 1998. it has …

First, Second, third, Forth Gen 3SGE info

Gen 4/3SGE BEAMS 3SGE BEAMSThe fourth generation 3SGE is also known as the 3SGE BEAMS. It began production in 1997, and is still being produced for the Altezza. The 3S-GE BEAMS was the first Toyota engine with dual VVT-i, increasing the available power to 197 bhp. ... The 'toyota Altezza' got the blacktop 3SGE The lexus …

BEAMS 3SGE Modifications – Doctored Garage

BEAMS 3SGE Modifications. First thing is first, the stock BEAMS is an incredible engine. It gets pretty decent fuel economy (I was getting 35mpg cruising at 80+mph with a 3.73 final drive), and easily makes 180hp and 140ftlbs at the wheels. That said, most people who use a BEAMS in an AE86 or other chassis end up wanting more power at some ...

The Complete BEAMS 3S-GE Wiring Guide

Connections With Constant Power. There are three circuits in the BEAMS engine that require constant power. One for the ECU, one for the alternator, and one for the DLC3 connector. Pin 16 of the DLC3 connector should be connected to battery positive through a 7.5A fused circuit.This provides power to the DLC3 connector.

BEAMS 3S-GE Black Top VVT problems

0000. Posted April 18, 2022. Having a few problems with my Toyota 3sge Beams vvt control. I suspect a faulty exhaust cam pulley, as no matter how much duty current is …

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Blacktop BEAMS 3SGE – Doctored Garage

Information about the BEAMS. The BEAMS 3SGE from the Altezza was the 5th generation, often referred to as "blacktop" due to the valve cover …

How To Install A Beams 3SGE Blacktop

hi guys! awesome job on the Celica! im doing a ke70 beams swap and want to use xssesive manufacturing engine brackets with cusco ae86 engine mounts, wich brings the engine down 1cm, i think the crossmember of the ke70 and the ae86 are the same, is there any space under the engine with the oem engine mounts to lower the engine 1cm and not hit …

3SGTE Stuff into a Beams Blacktop? [Archive]

We have a guy on the Altezzaclub with a 3SGE+T Beams Blacktop running 10psi daily, factory 11.5:1 compression with no problems! I'm planning on just running 8psi until I get it forged. Found out it was overboosting to 18psi! Amazing it was just #4 that went, especially with the 10.5:1 compression I was running.

3sge Beams Head On 3sgte

Toyota 3sge 50mm itb kit 3sge 3sgte thread mechanical etic gen3 3sgte mls head gasket se 2 3sgte built high performance 3sge beams blacktop gasket and seal. Head Gasket 3sgte Turbo Genuine Toyota Sw20 New. Toyota 3sgte. Se 1 Built Short Block 3sge 500bhp High Performance Parts Suppliers Dyno Tuning Ecu Calibration Ming …

How much HP in a 3SGE stock? | MR2 Owners Club Forum

there are 5 different 3sge. 1st gen = 135hp/130tq came in the US 80's celicas and jdm celicas. 2nd gen = 160hp/140tq came in the JDM 90+ celicas and mr2's. 3rd gen = 175hp/140tq came in the 94+ jdm celicas and jdm mr2's. 4th gen = 200hp/160tq, beams VVTI red top, came in the 98+ celica and mr2. not sure if this is the 5th gen but …

3sge Beams Blacktop Rebuild

Apr 12, 2013 #1. Hey guys, Looking for some quotes for a Zenki Auto 3sge BEAMS Blacktop. I was hoping on doing a simple rebuild on it and put it into my RA28. I am finding the 18RG is a bit lacking, and since my Beams has all the accessories, like AC and power steering. I think it will be better for a daily driver plus lighter, more fuel ...

Toyota 3S Engine (3SGTE, 3SGE) | Tuning, differences, specs

The power of the engine is 185 horsepower. at 6,000 rpm, with a torque of 250 Nm (184 lb•ft) at 3,600 rpm. The 3SGTE Gen 1 is mounted in Celica GT-Four ST165. The quarter mile time for the stock 3S-GTE Gen 1 was 15.5 sec. 3S-GTE Gen 2 (1989 – 1993) is the second type of the engine.

Blacktop vs Redtop [Archive]

11-06-2008, 08:48 AM. The blocks, cranks, and rods should be the same. Blacktop pistons are going to be different since the BT runs 11.5:1 compression. The BT and RT pan setups are going to be totally different. As for the head, the BT makes more power at higher rpm, so there is going to be some difference in cams.

Turbocharging a 3sge beams (rs200)

Re: Turbocharging a 3sge beams (rs200) doesnt work that way,as the valve angle is way different look at a gen 3 there is 25mm between the cam pulleys the beams is 5mm apart inlet lay back is 18 and exhaust is 22 and the valves are very close to the bore,even the head gasket is different. 06-07-2011, 06:58 PM #9. Fantapants.

building a head (3SGE/5SFE) | MR2 Owners Club Forum

The BEAMS head will not fit any other block than the one it was designed for because of the oil system. The oil pump is different from any of the prior engines and if I remember the head is a slight bit longer than the prior gens. Project 5S-GE: 180WHP/140LBS 2.2L Stroker NA On E85 (More WHP On The Way!):

Toyota 3S-GE engine

The Toyota 3S-GE is an in-line 4 cylinder engine manufactured by Toyota as part of the S engine family and tuned by Yamaha Motor Company. The cylinders are numbered 1-2-3-4 with cylinder number 1 beside the timing belt. The cylinder heads are made of aluminium alloy. The pent-roof combustion chambers are complemented by a …

5sgte engine build (beams black top head, CNC …

-beams red top cams, going to be modified for a distributor, VVT oil passage plugged. (10.2mm lift on the intake!)-Ebay cam gears (one center custom to match the beams intake cam)-Maxspeeding H beam …

Beams 3sge Power increase? | MR2 Owners Club Forum

The beams mk2 is faster than the blacktop mk1 despite being 500lbs heavier. The blacktop gets you a low 15second 1/4 usually. In a mk2 the redtop gets you a mid to low 14second 1/4. With a redtop in a mk1, you should be solidly into the 13's. It's a somewhat heavier motor, but probably still lighter than a 4agze.

3s-ge beams swap? | NewCelica Forum

The 6th gen Celica SSIII did come with the 3SGE BEAMS redtop in Japan and Europe. It uses the same S54 transmission as the Celica GT here (6th generation with the 5SFE engine). ... And lastly, the BEAMS blacktop will bolt up to the same transmission just fine, but some other modifications will be needed to make it fit since the blacktop ...

Beams Blacktop dual vvti head with a 98+ 5sfe block

The cam setup interferes with the strut tower. at least that seesm to be the commonly held belief. however, the beams/4th-gen 3sge head has single vvt-i. Silver 93T (67k) Mods: Alpine audio, Aeroware front, sides, and spoiler, custom rear, 94+ Tailights, K&N Cone-filter intake, KO Racing Exhaust and DP, 17" Kosei Penta's, SusTech springs …

Toyota MR2 3SGE Red-Top Beams VVTi Project

I'm a new member and I came to this forum because I recently bought a new MS3pro module. I have an Toyota MR2 with a Rev4 3SGE Red-top Beams engine (intake VVTi). The toyota oem ecu is quite closed to oem parts, so I know that I'm losing some torque with some aftermarket parts that I've been assembling. Right now I have 202hp …

Your Complete Guide To A 3SGE Beams Swap | JJHEngines

The "Beams" designation indicated this high-output, high-tech version of the 3SGE intended for Toyota's performance models. Image courtesy of LinkECU. The name "Beams" stands for Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System, highlighting its innovative design and technology. True to its name, the engineers at Yamaha developed ...

RA28 Celica

1st year Apprentice. RA28 Celica - 3sge Beams "blacktop" engine conversion. RA28 Celica + 3s-ge Beams "blacktop" = wet dream Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. – Enzo Ferrari. 30-05-2015, Re: RA28 Celica - 3sge Beams "blacktop" engine conversion. 31-05-2015, 1st year Apprentice.

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